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| May 27, 2005 I assume I missed getting into your site's mailbag with this -- and what an honor it would have been! -- but I had to comment on something that I saw here a few days ago, where you wrote something along the lines of "actually getting out of this website lawsuit-free." Nice work! That was very funny! You thinking someone might actually waste their time with a lawsuit on an unfunny, piece of crap website with zero readership. That's the first funny thing that's ever been written on your site. Bravo! Mike Mandayko Ahhh, Terre Haute sarcasm. Drink it in, folks...it always goes down awkward. ________________________________________________________________________ Logged onto Flippy yesterday and saw the "I am burned out, it's over" rant. I understand, but as you and I both know, FSS cannot completely die. Face it, only Roger Clemens, Muhammad Ali, and Michael Jordan have had more "retirements" than Flippy. Looking forward to hearing from you soon. Dan G On behalf of everyone who has ever written for/read/seen/heard of Flipside...the whole thing is getting boring. And trite. Just like sportspickle.com. _______________________________________________________________________ Dear Flipside staff, My name is Kenton Altman. I'm currently finishing up my 5 year contract in the Marine Corps. I am presently stationed at Camp Pendleton, California. I wanted to contact you guys and thank you for your website. I was turned on to the site by my brother, Evan Altman, who has done some writing for you guys. I was born and raised in Indiana and am a die-hard fan of the Hoosiers, Colts, and Pacers. Being in California, it's hard to get any good opinions about Indiana sports. I know I can always log onto your site for interesting points, clever remarks, and witty reviews. Your roundtable discussions are hilarious. The open gym material was classic. It's nice to be able to read about sports from people with the same mentality and agenda as myself. You guys are writing from the "fans" perspective and not the perspective of the overpaid, politically-correct knuckleheads that exist in today's media. When I read your articles I feel like I'm just hanging out with the guys and talking some sports. It feels good to get away from these west coast chumps and read about sports from fellow Hoosiers. Your creativity and ideas are even starting to make some new fans. I have showed your website to some friends out here and they're enjoying it with me. So whether you know it or not, you guys are being read nationwide. You guys are great and please keep up the good work. If you are looking for any new ideas or just want some input from a fellow Hoosier fan then please feel free to inquire. Don't let Evan fool you.....I had to correct him on that "Burbs" article he sent in. I may be the true expert regarding that movie. Take care and thanks again for everything. Yours in sports, Kenton P. Altman Flipside's biggest regret: that we didn't connect with the "hot, deaf, mute, 19-year-old-female-with-a-gymnastics-background" demographic like we have with Marines. ____________________________________________________________________________________ ____________________________________________________________________________________ May 20, 2005 Tough game last night. It's just starting to sink in right now. Can you imagine how strange it will be to NOT see Reg in a Pacers jersey next year? F---. Anyway, does this mean that you guys are done to? Isn't this what you said......you leave when Reggie leaves? Double f---. This might turn out to be the worst day in Indy history. I heard something at the game last night that I'd like to pass on to you: ONE MORE YEAR!!!! Just think about it. Thanks for sticking it to whitey for all these years. -James C In the coming days, we're just going to wrap up the Countdown and go out on our terms: with that false sense of pride and general hostility that only vast amounts of Jim Beam can provide. ________________________________________________________________________ Are we supposed to root for the Pistons now? Would that be like becoming sportspickle.com fans once you guys leave? So many questions. -C. Lambert Both endeavors require that you lower your IQ to UPN-like levels. Just keep that in mind. ________________________________________________________________________ I wish I would have found you guys sooner. Sorry to see you go, but between the pissed off Marines and the roaming Bedford-ites, it's probably for the best. My Kitchellesque baseline jumper is long gone, so we'll never cross paths at an open gym. If I ever run into any of you guys at a bar, I'll put the first round on C Jamal's tab. Nobody threw down dunks like Tolbert; Mike Woodson is still the man; Quinn Buckner could still kick all our asses...at once; and I not so secretly hoped that the chair would hit that whiney little Steve Reid bitch in the ass. I gotta go. I'm meeting JMV in an hour to see the new Star Wars movie again. -Hooker Do not—repeat: DO NOT!—challenge JMV to a fake light-saber duel. His skillz are otherwordly. You might just have to trust us on this. ________________________________________________________________________ You c---suckers.........if you shut it down, I am going Hashad on your asses. -Kurt Smith "Help is on the way." Having now experienced both, it's infinitely better to be called a "c---sucker" for retiring early than for referencing Teen Wolf for the 928th time that month. ________________________________________________________________________ In watching VH1 the other day (and yes, I do know how gay that opening line sounds), I learned of some interesting movie flubs. Chief among these was an extra in Teen Wolf exposing his crank and bag while standing in the bleachers after the come-from-behind Beacontown victory. Question for the Roundtable: Does a scene like this add to or detract from what is quite possibly the most poorly filmed and unrealistic basketball this side of Hang Time? -Evan (See above.) ________________________________________________________________________ I'm going to be crushed to see you guys go...your archives section filled up many boring afternoons at work. Did you guys always plan on shutting down Flipside whenever Reggie retired? If so, that's pretty cool. Guess its back to boring afternoons at work. You will be missed. -Kevin Y Was it our plan all along? Absolutely. Provided that "whenever Reggie retired" is some kind of suburban slang for "whenever our comminunity service requirements were fulfilled." ____________________________________________________________________________________ ____________________________________________________________________________________ May 12, 2005 Hurry up you dummys, I got nothing to read here. -Hans Strayer Maybe you should read a dictionary. ________________________________________________________________________ Please tell me that you guys are not quitting with the Flipside!!!! This cannot be happening. Where will I get the real inside information? Where will I read about Mike Davis's latest antics? What has happened to you guys? Tell me it's not over .....Was it over when the Germans bombed Pearl Harbor??!!! -G. Cruser Well...we were planning to raid the Indy 500 Parade as a last ditch-effort to save Flipside. But then our float ended up looking like a Mike-Davis gameplan: all rickety and confused. So we scrapped the whole thing. When the "Countdown" gets to 00:00, it's over. _______________________________________________________________________ I don't understand this nonsense about shutting down Flipsidesports - say it ain't so, Joe! say it ain't so! *sigh* -M Turner It's so, Mr. Turner. It's so. Your strong "Roxanne-Roxanne" references will once again fall upon deaf ears. And the world will be a lesser place for it. ________________________________________________________________________ Don't you guys think that your readers deserve an explanation? -S Klein No. ________________________________________________________________________ Hey Guys It is sad news to me that flipside will no longer be around. I just wanted you to know that being in the Marine Corps is hard work, and it is hard to be away from home. I enjoyed your site, I would check it everyday just to get some Indiana in my life, and to keep up on what was going on with Hoosier Basketball. I want to thank you for your time and effort, it meant allot to a Marine stationed in the Arizona desert. And as far as those who do not feel the way I do, f*&k em, their probably Purdue fans, or "just cant handle the truth". Any way, Ill get off my soapbox, hate to see you go, good job! Lcpl S.E. Riddle United States Marine Corps Marine Corps Air Station Yuma Thank you, Lance Corporal Riddle, for not once making fun of our "faggoty white uniforms." You've been an exemplary Reader Response guy. And we've heard that God has a hard-on for exemplary Reader Response guys. Or something like that. (Please don't kill us.) ________________________________________________________________________ I can respect the thought of you retiring, but at least leave the site up as a window in time for future generations to enjoy. This is literature. Josh Whicker Editor Hoosier Gazette That's the kind of logic that has kept "Mama's Family" on the PAX Network for the last 18 years. But the way we see it, what's painfully non-humorous to one generation will probably be painfully non-humorous to the next. Thanks for the love, though. ________________________________________________________________________ Just a question. I know that you guys are pretty intent on shutting Flipside down, but I was wondering about the chances of turning over the reins. I fully understand if it's a situation where you'd just as soon put it to bed and have it be done with; I know how difficult it can be to see something you started be reincarnated into something that you might not really care much for. But I was just thinking that I've got too much pent-up literary aggression to just let it build up. My novice skills (read: no skills at all) in the field of website design and administration leave me few options but to work with an established template. If you tell me I'm an idiot and that there's no way in hell this is possible, that makes sense. I mean, look what happened when the Raptors, ABA, Pacers, and Knicks let Isaiah take over. I know that Flipside could never be the same, but I would like to see the old staff continue to contribute, even if it's on a decreased level. It could be kind of like when Optimus Prime was dying and he turned the Autobot Matrix of Leadership over to Hot Rod. Hot Rod then became Rodimus Prime (I never really liked that name) and became the Autobots' new leader; it was a different kind of leadership, but the Autobots continued to fight. Bad analogy, but that's kind of what my thinking was. I'm sorry to see it go; my feelings are akin to those of Celtics fans when they heard the news of Len Bias. He wasn't really on the team yet, but they had such high hopes. -Evan Altman Well... you are a legend to many in the Flipside Forum community. And your Autobot knowledge is unparalleled. Nonetheless, there's a strong possibility that a pissed-off Marine is headed toward Flipside as we speak. It's probably in everyone's best interest that the site just disappear. ASAP. Sorry. ________________________________________________________________________ ________________________________________________________________________ March 30, 2005 I thought I'd work from home this morning, maybe even chat up some hot babes on the internet and stuff. Cold Pizza is still on the air? What the hell is the deal at the the "Duece"? Who has pictures of who and what does Dana Jacobson have to do on a daily basis to keep her job? Possibly the same perverse acts that Woody, Skip and Jay have to perform for the executives? I long for the days of tractor pulls and lumberjack competitions. -Rob Hook "Cold Pizza" is about as funny as DJ Gallo. (And in case you didn't know, DJ Gallo is about as funny as rectal cancer.) ________________________________________________________________________ This conversation took up a majority of the work day, but the people in my office have come to a consensus: your Paul Mokeski Awards lost credibility due to the omission of Freddy "The Mayor" Hoiberg. Probably one of the 3 or 4 whitest humans alive. And besides, the only nicknames whiter than "The Mayor" are "The Gubernatorial Candidate" and "Rusty." Please don't shoot the messenger on this one. Keep up the stong work. -W. Stevenson Not only can Hoiberg dunk, but he and Jamaal Tinsley went to the same university. When viewed in the context of the Mokeski Team, Freddy's about as white as Lawrence Taylor. _______________________________________________________________ While I think you guys are a wee bit hard on Mike Davis, I would have to say that, to steal from an old Islamic proverb, anybody who hates Mark Patrick is my friend. (Some background. A long time ago I wrote for a zine called Fishheads. We did some sort of media parody, and I did one of Robin Miller's multiple-choice quizzes. As I said, it was a long time ago. Anyway, one of the answers ripped on Mark Patrick -- at Channel 8 at the time -- and Miller made sure to put Fishheads on Patrick's desk when he and his sweatpants visited Sports Locker. Patrick apparently was screaming obscenities. So I'm sure he did the same thing with your piece -- suprisingly, Mark is very vain!) (Oh, and also, I saw one of your fake writers mention covering basketball for an Indiana paper. It's not Rick Morwick of the Daily Journal is it? Because if you're there, Rick, how's it going?) Bob Cook Flak Magazine To steal from an old Indy Star proverb, anyone who thinks we employ professional writers is a friend of ours. _______________________________________________________________ As another ‘old timer’ (class of ’95), the Willie article hit the mark. It is tough to articulate the frustrated feeling you get watching IU basketball. I agree that Davis is not solely responsible for the current situation in IU basketball, but the questions begs to be asked what is the answer to get back to ’87, ’92, or any other year the ‘feeling’ was there. Starting with Davis is the obvious choice but it will take more. -Ward Witte Agreed. Provided that "but it will take more" means "and nothing more." (Remember, Willie didn't speak for all of us.) ________________________________________________________________________ I actually thought, as the color commentator was making his statement [regarding Davis' 'I'd be shocked if they fired me' quote], that this was a truly flipsidian comment....Could NOT believe what I was hearing. Couldn't believe it!!! Is he really that clueless?? What an absolutely pathetic effort. By the way, great responses to the "It's not 1992" rant...I was waiting for it, and I was very pleased by the inclusion of the failing Bob Knight years...it is NOT just Mike Davis, but the way the program is headed (and this has always been a concern of mine) is my worry. Thanks also for including the dismal grades...I will not profess that Bob Knight's players ALWAYS went to class, because that is pure BS --- Damon Bailey was in my H105 History class in Woodburn Hall, that was until October 15th -- then he was Eric "Gagne" -- never to be seen again. But, I do believe that those kids did get an education...and when you search for all the McDonalds AAs and the blue chippers..you are taking quite a risk. Enough of my aimless banter...thanks for the great response and also the truly flipsidian response --- Classically concise! -Ryan Holmes Nonsense. "Aimless banter" is the foundation on which this site was built. (Well, that and a drunken bet.) _______________________________________________________________ Please forward the clip of Martha the cleaning lady. I desperately need a dose of nostalgia after this dismal season of IU hoops. Watching two top Indiana high school players leading UNC and MSU into the Final Four is about as painful as it gets. The transcript of Greenspan/Davis is spot-on, keep up the good work. -Chris S What are you talking about? IU was the #4 seed in the Big Ten tourney. That doesn't ease your pain? You're a racist. ________________________________________________________________________ Are you guys really this stupid? So what if they are in the NIT this year...Can you not see how good the Hoosiers will be next year? They are already a Final Four favorite for 2006...what will you guys say when Davis takes IU back to the finals? Real fans don't hop on and off the bandwagon. -Kevin Walrich And "real" coaches don't throw tantrums in the airport terminal when they find out that the team's charter plane is not operated by Qantas Airlines. _______________________________________________________________ What a sick show on ESPN2 last night huh? I cannot understand why Bracey is given the green light to do whatever he wants. The fact that Davis refuses to bench him is what aggervates the hell out of me. Honestly, I was happy when Bracey was injured and hoped he could sit out the rest of the year. I don't wish bad things on him, in fact I wish he would go pro early. Get him out of Bloomington and send Mike with him. -Matt Fisher A "sick show?" Absolutely not. Watching the Hoosiers get dismantled in the first round of the NIT (on their own court, no less) in front of about 82 fans was great. And considering the direction of the program, there should probably be a banner added in Assembly Hall commemorating their NIT appearence. _______________________________________________________________ After the NIT Game I need something to remind me of the good old days. I'm just 25 please send the clip of Martha. And If IU fires Davis and hires a real coach we sould petetion the school to play it at the start of the season next year during an early season game (even if they have to pay ESPN to do it) as an apology to all the real fans. -Ben Zuckschwerdt Quite possibly the second best idea we've heard in three years. Coming in at #1... _______________________________________________________________ Thanks for the clip, it brought back great memories of the glory days. They should use this when they introduce the new coach at next season's midnight madness. I can see it now, a darkened Assembly Hall, we hear her start to whistle the fight song, a spotlight shines on her as she slowly works her way across the court, then she starts to sing. There isn't a dry eye in the house. The crowd goes insane as the new coach is introduced and lifted onto the players shoulders. IU goes on to win twenty some games and finds itself in the final four in Indianapolis. I should write for Hollywood. -Walt Nichols [awed silence] ________________________________________________________________________ Awesome site, love the Minnesota game plan especially. Please send me the Martha video, as an '84 alum I will try to get through it without tears. Thanks, -Bill Simon You'd be the first. ________________________________________________________________________ What is it they say? 2.8 million fans CAN'T be wrong, but 1 AD can!!! -Steve Bailey That's correct. They do say that. |
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